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    (primo post sull'arco narrativo di Wano: qui; precedente post: qui)

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    Passando alla copertina a colori del cap916: è la tipica copertina che commemora l'estate, che Oda in genere posta alla fine della stagione estiva. Qui la banda di Cappello di Paglia si impegna in attività estive. Come sempre, Nami è in bella vista, mostrando ancora una volta quanto lei sia il personaggio preferito di Oda, dopo Rufy.

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    Per prima cosa, notiamo che sulle gambe di Nami ci sono la "N" e la "I" di One Piece. Ora, può essere un caso, ma "N" è l'iniziale di Nami, mentre la "I" richiama l'uno, il numero di Rufy.

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    Passando alla lattina che Nami ha in mano, la scritta "Wild blue" può trarre in inganno, perchè contiene la "blue" dell'All Blue, il mare che Sanji cerca sempre; inoltre, il teschio con le spade può richiamare Zoro. Ma la scritta non ha la "all" bensì al suo posto il "wild", selvaggio", come è appunto Rufy che sta attaccando con un bastone; e il colore dietro la scritta è rosso, il colore di Rufy. Inoltre, bisogna sempre tenere a mente una cosa: oltre ai riferimenti simbolici, si deve vedere la storia, se questa corrisponde o no a questi simboli. Ebbene, come tra Zoro e Nami non c'è niente (a parte per i fan della coppia, che non vedono i fatti, ma ci costruiscono sopra), lo stesso vale per Nami e Sanji: e ho già spiegato in passato i motivi.

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    Passando a Rufy, può sembrare che lì non ci sia nessun riferimento a Nami. Ma se si fa attenzione, si nota che lì c'è l'unico cenno ad un'onda. E "Nami" significa proprio "onda".

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    Passiamo a Robin e Zoro: entrambi hanno in mano un paio di "aste". Robin ha un paio di pinze per la grigliata, Zoro due bacchette per il ramen. Certo, anche Usop ha in mano un paio di pinze, ma, a parte il fatto che bisogna considerare anche la storia oltre ai simboli, Usop è quasi un "figlio" della coppia come Chopper. Senza contare che Usop ha in mano la pinza con in più un guanto, che non è necessario da usare...Inoltre, Robin ha un bikini con macchie e linee nere, come la bandana di Zoro, e porta un gonnellino verde, il colore di Zoro.

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    QUI TUTTI I LINK SU WANO, ZOROBIN, RUFYNAMI E ONE PIECE

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    According to data from a Japanese media channel, the favorite couples in One Piece are:
    *1 Nami x Luffy
    *2 Nami x Zoro
    *3 Robin x Zoro
    Some people in the Zoro and Nami fan group think that Luffy, Zoro, and Nami are the premise, so if Nami doesn't pair up with Luffy, she will pair up with Zoro because
    - they claim that nami was the first to hit zoro and he did nothing
    - Sometimes Zoro worries about Nami's safety
    - ''Initially, Zoro did not care about Nami at all and only saw her as a simple teammate. Despite admitting her ability to determine direction, in Zoro's eyes, Nami is still a mischievous girl. Zoro's view of Nami gradually changed when she was captured by the Arlong gang, he realized she was completely different from them.

    Since coming back, the relationship between the two has become better. Although he often argued, Zoro never suspected that Nami would betray the gang. Zoro also treated Nami better, willing to take her back to Alabasta even though he knew she wasn't really injured.

    Coming to Punk Harzard, the audience can see many hint scenes between the two characters. Like when Nami asked Zoro to chase Sanji - who was in her body, Zoro agreed. This proves that Nami trusts Zoro very much and knows that he will not do anything to her body. Even though Zoro absolutely hated Sanji, he still instinctively caught Nami's hand when she tripped and fell even though he knew it was actually Sanji in her body. He is also willing to follow Nami's orders to the letter when it comes to steering the ship, showing complete faith in her navigational skills.

    Zoro also frequently shows concern for Nami, such as on Thriller Bark when he wondered if Sanji had saved Nami, and again on Dressrosa when Nami along with Sanji, Chopper and Brook were separated from the crew. and was chased by the Big Mom pirates.''

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    Some people in the zona fandom say that robin is too old to suit zoro, and that nami is suitable for zoro.^^

    Edited by Ha Dan - 28/1/2024, 05:11
     
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    The Nami-Rufy couple and the Zoro-Robin couple are too obvious to be otherwise: about this, personally, I am firmly convinced.

    At the beginning, Zoro saw Nami as someone who cannot be trusted: after Arlong's story, he not only understood that she is trustworthy, but he also understood the strong bond between her and Rufy. Since Nami is one of the weakest of the group, together with Usop and Chopper, Zoro has often worried about saving her, as he does for the others (now, however, Nami is very powerful, so Zoro doesn't worry about her that much now) .

    But Zoro has never worried much about Robin, because he knows that she is one of the strongest in the crew: he only intervenes in serious cases to save Robin. As for the age difference, it has never been an obstacle for both. The Nebulandia scene noticed the fact, but it doesn't affect the relationship between Robin and Zoro at all.

    But you see, these observations will never convince those who are convinced of the existence of other couples, such as the Zoro-Nami that you mentioned. For this reason, I always avoid having these types of discussions: they lead to nothing and do not convince, nor will they ever convince, anyone. Let everyone believe what they want: I personally am very convinced of the Zoro-Robin and Rufy-Nami couple, and I have tons of elements as proof, which I have posted here over the years.

    After this, everyone can think what they want.
     
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    Hello, you seem to like the couple Nami Zoro, I'll show you why I think it's more a "sister, brother" relationship than anything else.
    QUOTE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    - they claim that nami was the first to hit zoro and he did nothing

    Nami often hits Zoro and Sanji when they argue. This is a recurring humorous moment in the series, and the same applies to Luffy.

    luffy-nami

    QUOTE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    - Sometimes Zoro worries about Nami's safety

    I don't recall moments where Zoro is genuinely concerned for Nami, and in any case, it's mainly because she is unfortunately a bit weaker


    QUOTE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    - ''Initially, Zoro did not care about Nami at all and only saw her as a simple teammate. Despite admitting her ability to determine direction, in Zoro's eyes, Nami is still a mischievous girl. Zoro's view of Nami gradually changed when she was captured by the Arlong gang, he realized she was completely different from them.

    If I'm not mistaken, an analysis has already been done to show that Zoro wasn't so bothered by Nami's disappearance. His perspective changed because Zoro realized that Nami was genuinely interested in the crew, plain and simple.



    QUOTE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    Coming to Punk Harzard, the audience can see many hint scenes between the two characters. Like when Nami asked Zoro to chase Sanji - who was in her body, Zoro agreed. This proves that Nami trusts Zoro very much and knows that he will not do anything to her body.

    Zoro has never cast a lecherous or inappropriate gaze in the manga, so Nami asks him because she knows he won't do anything strange in this situation.

    QUOTE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    He is also willing to follow Nami's orders to the letter when it comes to steering the ship, showing complete faith in her navigational skills.

    The same goes for the entire crew.

    QUOTE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    Some people in the zona fandom say that robin is too old to suit zoro, and that nami is suitable for zoro.^^

    In the manga, age is not considered important, as evidenced by instances such as Roger and Portgas D. Rouge, as well as Rayleigh and Shakky. An analysis has also been conducted here, if I'm not mistaken.

    Don't take this as an attack or anything. It's just my thoughts on the couple and don't hesitate to reply with arguments or anything else.
    Bye
     
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    Sostanzialmente, sono d'accordo con Carl. E ci sarebbe ancora di più da dire, ma non ho il tempo per farlo.
    Le coppie Nami-Rufy e Zoro-Robin sono per me le uniche valide, e di questo sono fermamente convinto, e ci sono un mucchio di prove al riguardo che ho già presentato.
    Poi naturalmente ciascuno è libero di pensarla diversamente. Ma non voglio essere trascinato in inutili discussioni sulle coppie.

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    Basically, I agree with Carl. And there would be even more to say, but I don't have the time to do it.

    The Nami-Luffy and Zoro-Robin couples are the only valid ones for me, and I am firmly convinced of this, and there is a lot of evidence about this that I have already presented.

    Then of course everyone is free to think differently. But I don't want to get dragged into pointless discussions about couples.
     
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    oh no, it seems I made you misunderstand, I don't like the Zoro x Nami couple at all. Actually, I'm looking for the support of my allies ''ZoroxRobin's fans''. Because in my country, the Zoro xNami couple is very popular, they attack my Zobin couple, they give those arguments. To prove my argument, I think I should ask everyone's opinion to make my argument more convincing.

    CITAZIONE (Carl @ 28/1/2024, 14:44) 
    Hello, you seem to like the couple Nami Zoro, I'll show you why I think it's more a "sister, brother" relationship than anything else.
    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    - they claim that nami was the first to hit zoro and he did nothing

    Nami often hits Zoro and Sanji when they argue. This is a recurring humorous moment in the series, and the same applies to Luffy.

    luffy-nami

    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    - Sometimes Zoro worries about Nami's safety

    I don't recall moments where Zoro is genuinely concerned for Nami, and in any case, it's mainly because she is unfortunately a bit weaker


    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    - ''Initially, Zoro did not care about Nami at all and only saw her as a simple teammate. Despite admitting her ability to determine direction, in Zoro's eyes, Nami is still a mischievous girl. Zoro's view of Nami gradually changed when she was captured by the Arlong gang, he realized she was completely different from them.

    If I'm not mistaken, an analysis has already been done to show that Zoro wasn't so bothered by Nami's disappearance. His perspective changed because Zoro realized that Nami was genuinely interested in the crew, plain and simple.



    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    Coming to Punk Harzard, the audience can see many hint scenes between the two characters. Like when Nami asked Zoro to chase Sanji - who was in her body, Zoro agreed. This proves that Nami trusts Zoro very much and knows that he will not do anything to her body.

    Zoro has never cast a lecherous or inappropriate gaze in the manga, so Nami asks him because she knows he won't do anything strange in this situation.

    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    He is also willing to follow Nami's orders to the letter when it comes to steering the ship, showing complete faith in her navigational skills.

    The same goes for the entire crew.

    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 04:35) 
    Some people in the zona fandom say that robin is too old to suit zoro, and that nami is suitable for zoro.^^

    In the manga, age is not considered important, as evidenced by instances such as Roger and Portgas D. Rouge, as well as Rayleigh and Shakky. An analysis has also been conducted here, if I'm not mistaken.

    Don't take this as an attack or anything. It's just my thoughts on the couple and don't hesitate to reply with arguments or anything else.
    Bye
     
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    CITAZIONE (Ha Dan @ 28/1/2024, 15:20) 
    oh no, it seems I made you misunderstand, I don't like the Zoro x Nami couple at all. Actually, I'm looking for the support of my allies ''ZoroxRobin's fans''. Because in my country, the Zoro xNami couple is very popular, they attack my Zobin couple, they give those arguments. To prove my argument, I think I should ask everyone's opinion to make my argument more convincing.

    I already understood that you were in favor of the Zoro-Robin couple and you had shown me the data on Zoro-Nami to respond to them: Carl and I gave some answers.

    It's right that you also evaluate other opinions: but, if I can give you some advice, don't get your hopes up. You will never convince a fan of Zoro-Nami (or any other couple) to become a Zoro-Robin or a Luffy-Nami. This is like football support: reason and reflection do not count in this topic.
     
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